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Hi all, first time posting, longer time lurker! My fiancee and I had been looking for a Victorola and came across this and purchased it. I cannot for the life of me figure out if it’s authentic or not. There is no placard with a serial number, nor a model number. The logo is painted on glass. Any help would be appreciated! 

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Tinfoilphono

I'm sorry to say that you have a fake phonograph, which collectors often refer to as a "Crapophone." The motor (and possibly the tonearm) is from a mid-20th century portable but the rest, including the horn, was made very recently. These are extremely commonly manufactured in India and they are often misrepresented as original antiques. It's not really a replica as no originals looked quite like that design, so it is more accurately called a fantasy piece.

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Please don't feel too badly about this.  Many collectors started out exactly the same way - with their enthusiasm outweighing their knowledge.  We've all been in the same place, and every one of us has a story about buying something we probably shouldn't have, or "the one that got away."  Consider this Forum your circle of friends to whom you may come for advice. 

 

If you're interested in a Victor Talking Machine Company product (a "Victor" is an external-horn machine, while a "Victrola" has an internal horn hidden inside the cabinet), this website will show you all the US-built models:

 

http://www.victor-victrola.com/

 

That said, the above website can be a bit overwhelming for the beginner,  You might want to check out some of the free articles on the Antique Phonograph Society's website.  I recommend these for newcomers:

 

https://www.antiquephono.org/#/collectiondetails/19

 

https://www.antiquephono.org/#/collectiondetails/78

 

This one is very good for new owners:

 

https://www.antiquephono.org/#/collectiondetails/16

 

These and others at the website are user-friendly and hopefully basic enough to encourage newcomers.  Plus, you are always welcome to ask questions here!

 

George P.

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Definitely don't feel bad!  I am very "picky" about my antiques being "authentic" and have actually had a few of these "reproductions" in my collection from time to time.  Somebody gifted me one several years ago, actually.  I knew what it was the moment I saw it but I was honored they chose to give it to me.... [It's the thought that counts].  It lingered around for a while and then I discreetly moved it on elsewhere ["sold it"].... LOL.

 

It's all in fun.... And, hey, you learn something new every day.  I bet you will be able to spot those reproductions a mile away, now.  Take care!

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