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  2. With the other discussion on square cases I decided to see what changes were made to the square case thru the years.. I dug up my well worn Martinolas spread sheet and checked the numbers. He has put a lot of time and effort into this valuable resource in a effort to assist Edison collectors. It is excellent information. I gleaned these serial numbers from the spread sheet and they are only approximate numbers and I am sure there will be changes in the future as more information becomes available These numbers show the modifications to the bed plate made by Edison over the years to improve it. They may assist in dating your phonograph but bear in mind owners made modifications and Edison also modified older phonographs. These are serial numbers :: 1. two clip case to four clip case aprox. 20000 2.four clip case to new case aprox. 43000-44000 3.ICS standard A new case aprox. 47000 4.ID patent date changed from 1893 to 1898 aprox 18000 5.ID patent date changed from 1898 to 1903 aprox 164000 6. one screw carriage reproducer clip to two screw clip aprox 1800 to 2000 7. no gear cover to gear cover 5000 to 6000 8. tension adjuster screws added aprox. 8000 9. serial numbers on straight edge added aprox. 12000-13000 10 Edison Bell standard square case production run for export fell in the ranges aprox 6000 thru 10400 not sure how many were produced at a time. I hope this helps in square box identification Tom B
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  4. tomb

    Edison Standards

    Edison made two clips Edison standards thru aprox. s/n 20000 then changed to four clips thru aprox. s/n 42000. After that the new case was used. There were some complains on the two clips as the cases separated while carrying them and broke the phonograph. I have a two clip case where someone added some extra hooks for safety. I learned long ago to never never trust the carrying handle or the case latches. I have damaged a couple of cases. on my phonographs so I can see why. Even the later cases have slipped on me due to improper hooking when the latch is pushed in. I pick them up from the bottom. I am working on my earliest square case as I seemed to have broken the wheel off of the carriage that rides on the knife edge. It is a early carriage only one screw in the reproducer retaining clip. That goodness I found someone who can drill it out and repair it. I have only seen one other one come up on E bay. Tom
  5. tomb

    My Home Phonograph

    Thanks George I forgot about that. My mind does not function sometimes as well as it used to. I may take a couple of phonographs out and try on a bunch of horns on them to see what they look like with different style horns. I have some long ones too. I will take some pics and post them . Some people are partial to certain horns though and as you said if it did not come with it it does not belong. I was reading Flows and he kind of hinted that people upgraded them. I know Edison offered update kits for there phonographs as some of the parts had to be sent in to be fitted. It makes sense that anything offered by 1913 could have been used on prior phonographs by their owners to give better performance and a more modern look. ( keeping up with the Jones ) as it used to be stated. . When I got my Home C I decided to add a cygnet horn to it as I had a complete original laying around and Flows said it was an option. So I guess it is not completely original but it fits my collection and displaying better. Tom
  6. Working on a Columbia Graphophone BC with the #10 reproducer, someone has been into before and I think I might be missing a bushing or other piece. Am attaching pictures, does anyone have a diagram or a complete working one that I can compare more pics with? Thanks in advance and I hope I posted in the right place....
  7. KinetoGuy

    Bacigalupi

    He would have been around 29 years old. He was born in 1860. The photo was part of an album of photos of Edison employees who worked at the 1889 Paris Expo.
  8. RodPickett

    Bacigalupi

    Awesome stuff. How old would you guess that guy to be?
  9. KinetoGuy

    Edison Cabinet Card

    Here is one more cabinet card photo of someone whose name many of us will recognize...Frances Jehl
  10. KinetoGuy

    Bacigalupi

    Here is another letter which is from Tilden to Rechtor and references Bacigalupi.....I also included a letter of interest relating to special cameras made for the Corbett-Fitzsimmons bout in Nevada and a signed cabinet card of the man who started it all with the moving pictures......William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.....
  11. melvind

    Edison-By Edmund Morris

    I work part time (in my retirement) at a small bookstore in my small town. When the Morris Edison book came out I had to buy it. I was eager to read it, but it took me awhile to get into it. I have to agree that the reverse chronology is a bit jarring but it did not really bother me once I understood what was going on (kind of like King Arthur's Merlin or Benjamin Button). I have had issues with every biography I have ever read about Edison. I find them a bit dry and always have to make myself finish them. This one was no exception. It took me weeks to get through it. But, I would have to say it is a worthwhile book. Some great information by a really great writer. But, there are issues. I think when anyone that is not an expert is a person like Edison and his life and work is going to make mistakes. But, this one does a pretty good job overall and is well researched and documented . I think anyone that is interested in Edison will find it a worthwhile read.
  12. Mainspring

    Edison-By Edmund Morris

    Such a great book, ruined by the chronology. I recommend it but start at the back, one can only take so much effect and cause.
  13. phonogfp

    Edison-By Edmund Morris

    I agree with Rene - - it's an important book, but unfortunately (for me anyway), the reverse chronology is a deal-breaker. My lovely wife got the book at our local library before Christmas (possibly thinking that if I liked it, her shopping list could be shortened). I read it cover-to-cover, and was pleased when I was finished. To me it's almost tragic that a potentially monumental book was ruined by what I regard as a useless novelty. Admittedly, my brain is highly chronological in its storage, and the backward presentation of Edison's life clearly doesn't grate on most others as it does on me. But it does seem a waste to alienate a portion of the audience for no appreciable reason. I too found a number of surprising errors related to phonographic history, but like Rene, I cannot remember them - other than the consistent misspelling of the word "disk." This occurred even when discussing the Edison Disc Phonograph. This of course is minor compared to errors in fact, of which there were several. I does make one wonder how accurate the rest of the book is. My favorite Edison biography remains A Streak of Luck, by Robert Conot.
  14. phonogfp

    My Home Phonograph

    It's all in the crane. I wouldn't try using a Hawthorne & Sheble No.4 to support a Searchlight on a suitcase Home, but one of the Tea Tray cranes would work. Although a Searchlight Horn will date at least 5 years later than any suitcase Home, period owners could and did "update" their horn equipment years after their original purchase. Many of us collectors seem to (almost subconsciously) pair machines and horns as though everything had been originally purchased on the same day. There's certainly nothing wrong with that, but there's a lot of evidence that Edison owners "updated" their machines for years after the original purchase (Amberol Attachments, Cygnet Horns, etc.). I've found (and I'm sure many APS Forum members have as well) machines in attics and house sales where earlier machines were equipped with later horns. George P.
  15. Mainspring

    Edison Standards

    If you mean mine, the SN is S30195.
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    Czech or "Bohemian" Recordings pre-1930

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  17. tomb

    Edison Standards

    What serial number is you phonograph. I have always liked the early Edison home suitcases and the square cases. I went overboard for a while. Tom
  18. tomb

    Square Case Edison Standard

    I got so enthused after this post that I pulled out a couple of my older standard suitcases and was exercising them. My first is a complete standard Edison Bell with a Medvid rebuilt Edison Bell reproducer. It worked great after a little oil. My second is my oldest at s/n 2800 nd after oiling it up and adjusting the mandrel I found out it had a broken roller on the reproducer carriage. Since the carriage is hard to find I emailed Medid and he will drill it out and fix it. I lucked out. His work is exceptional. I will take a couple of pics tomorrow and post them here of the Edison Bell. Tom B
  19. tomb

    My Home Phonograph

    So it would be OK for Models B and up to put one on. I do not think it would fit on a suitcase Home A Tom
  20. Tinfoilphono

    Edison-By Edmund Morris

    I agree that it's a very impressive and worthwhile read. There's an incredible amount of detail -- I read things I have never seen anywhere before (but which are well documented here). I did find a couple of phonograph-related errors (which, alas, I can't now recall), which makes me question some of the other interesting facts. The reverse chronology is my one big complaint. It's jarring, and the decade-by-decade narration is confusing. Next time I read it, I will start at the last chapter and work my way forward.
  21. need4art

    Edison-By Edmund Morris

    While my wife complains about the phonographs that I have scattered all over the house, she is always on the look for something to get me that relates to my interests. While we all probably have a few books about Edison, most of us will normally pick the books that relate about him to our interest in photographs. This book touches on them but is really an overlook at his entire life centering most heavily on his middle years. I have a number of books about Edison, but if I was going to have just one, this would be it. First off, it has, what has become my favorite picture of Edison. Secondly it was written by Pulitzer Prize winner Edmund Morris who also wrote the Theodore Roosevelt Trilogy which I also have which is a great read. This book was published after Edmund passed away. This book is an easy read (in most cases) and has an amazing amount of information. The bibliography and notes are over 100 pages and have many links and website address's to video's and photo's. I am not a book reviewer, and found only two negatives in my read. Edmund starts at the end of Edison's life and ends when he is a child which made the process of the read strange to me, and a few times he gets bogged down trying to impress the reader with all the technical details of a specific item. But what he does do well to is make aa American icon human by introducing the members of his family, flaws and all and how he deals with them and his own shortcomings. This is a big book, well over 700 pages with notes but a really good read, I am on my second trip through it.
  22. Tinfoilphono

    Edison Cabinet Card

    Outstanding collection!
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  24. KinetoGuy

    Edison Cabinet Card

    Here are some more Edison cabinet card photos that you may be interested in seeing.....
  25. phonogfp

    My Home Phonograph

    The Searchlight Horns appeared during the summer of 1906. They were appropriate for Edison Standard, Home, or Triumph, and the model is not especially important. Since post-October 1907 Edisons were equipped with their own flower (and later Cygnet) horns, the Searchlight Horns are most often found with A and B models of Standard, Home, and Triumph. George P.
  26. Analogous

    Leeds & Catlin Record Labels

    Thanks George, I've written Allan to see if I can get a copy somehow! Of course, what I REALLY need is an early catalog of their cylinders... and Walcutt & Leeds... and Walcutt & Miller!!
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    Coin-Op Lock

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