Victor/Victrola motors

[phono-phan]

I remember seeing an article that showed and described the different motors used in the Victor and Victrola models.  I tried to search the archives and can't find it.  Does anyone remember seeing it and can refer me to it?  Thanks!!!  

[phonogfp]

Check "Member Resources" on the APS website and search for "Article_Advanced_Braker-Victor-Motor.pdf."

 

George P.

[phono-phan]

Thanks!!!!  The article refers to several photos.  But, they aren't in the article.  Am I missing something?  I am trying to figure out what motor goes into a very late Victor VI.  The Victor Data Book mentions it should be a motor with quad cut gears and take a 5/16" female crank.  Earlier Victor VI models used a double cut spindle gear.  I should know what the difference is but don't.  Time to learn.  The motor board doesn't have the large hole in it for the large spindle plate to use the yielding turntable.  I am looking to restore a Victor VI with a serial number of 13971 which is only 30 away from the end of production.  Someone put in a later Victrola motor and there are extra holes where the original motor was mounted.   The Victor data book also mentions this motor was used in some VV-XIV and VV-XVI models.  

[phonogfp]

Hmmm...  I don't know why the images should be missing.

 

George P.

[phonogfp]

I just Googled "Victrola Motors Harold Braker" and this old CAPS post came up.  There were a couple of versions of this guide, and this may not be the updated one, but hopefully it will help:

 

https://www.capsnews.org/apn1995-1.htm

 

George P. 

[phono-phan]

Yes, that is the picture I remember seeing.  THANKS!!!    I am trying to figure out what the difference in the motors would be between a double cut gears and spindles and a quad cut gears and spindles motor would look like.   I should know the difference between double cut and quad cut but don't.  I am hoping to find the correct motor and turntable for the late Victor VI I am planning on restoring.  According to the Victor Data Book, the quad cut gear motor was also used on some later VV-XVI and VV-XIV models.   I think this late Victor VI is worth restoring.  It is only 30 serial numbers away from the end of production.  Wish me luck!!!!

[phonogfp]

Good luck!

[Jerry]

I believe the "quad cut" spindle gears are the later style, with fine teeth, versus the the early gears with heavy, square cut teeth. 

[phono-phan]

Thanks for the replies.  I am on the hunt for a replacement motor for a very late Victor VI.  The Victor Data Book shows that same motor was used in some later XIV and XVI models.  

[Jerry]

An example of the "quad cut" spindle gear type of motor, was shown by Bill Meyer, on 4/2/26 at 12:34PM, in your TMF posting.

 

https://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?t=62639

 

 

[phono-phan]

I had a great phone conversation with Bill.  I understand the difference in the gears now.  Ya learn something new every day.  Thanks!!!!

[Jerry]

13 hours ago, phono-phan said:

I had a great phone conversation with Bill.  I understand the difference in the gears now.  Ya learn something new every day.  Thanks!!!!

 

 

Great!

 

(In the gear manufacturing world, they're known as "four start" and "two start" worms.)