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  2. Those are terrific. I'm a nut for dealer tags and labels. I'm afraid I have nothing to add. The only pairings I have duplicate yours -- Bacigalupi and Eastern Talking Machine. I have a Cleveland Graphophone dealer tag on an AN but I'd never seen one of their boxes until your picture.
  3. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    Here it is...
  4. I suspect that some (many?) of us have either deliberately or inadvertently acquired machines and records which carry advertisements for the same dealer. Some retailers of the late 1800s and first decades of the 1900s were profuse in their self-promotion, and it's not particularly difficult to match certain records and machines from the same source. This of course is not the case with short-lived vendors, and searching for certain specimens can be an exercise in patience. Here are some examples, and I'm looking forward to seeing more from other collections. George P. Perhaps the most commonly-found markings of an early vendor are those of the mammoth Sears, Roebuck, & Company. The firm stopped marking its Graphophones in late 1901. The paper overlays were the usual treatment. This is the only example I've seen of the ink-stamping, but surely there are others. I'm not aware of additional variations of the cylinder box label. The Eastern Talking Machine Company of Boston offered black ink-stamped record boxes, red ink-stamped record boxes, and even full paper-label versions. The Eastern stamping on the front plate of this Eagle Graphophone is difficult to see in this shot, but the original Columbia plate was replaced by Eastern's own version. Hawthorne & Sheble (pronounced "SHEB-lee") applied this small art nouveaux-inspired decal on machines it sold until 1898. This Edison Home dates from February of that year. H&S sold its early cylinder records in these understated boxes featuring a crepe-like paper covering. Apparently, Hawthorne & Sheble decided that playing the wallflower was not really their style. This machine decal and record label were much more in character. The little hand cabinet was sold by H&S to house an uncased ($10 version) Eagle Graphophone. The large decal seems to have appeared in late 1898/1899. The Cleveland Graphophone Company evidently had a short life. At least its marked wares are seldom seen. As described elsewhere on this forum, this Type BS Graphophone and record box bear the markings of noted San Francisco retailer and jobber, Peter Bacigalupi. Apparently, he dropped the Graphophone line in late 1898 or early 1899 to concentrate on Edison and (later), Victor. By October 1905, Edison had dispensed with large banner decals on Phonograph cabinets. Such aesthetic discretion had no effect on W. T. Cranes & Company's markings on its wares. This Home dates from mid-1908. I hope others will contribute images of their "twins" as well.
  5. phonogfp

    Dealer tags

    Here's one I acquired several years ago, but forgot to include it in this thread. This one is on a Victor Royal, #450. George P.
  6. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    Hmmm... On further thought, I can add six more couples... I'll start a thread after our granddaughter goes home this afternoon. George P.
  7. phonogfp

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    Thanks for that clarification, Rene! George P.
  8. Tinfoilphono

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    It is all a bit vague, but best as I can decipher things he had a combination salesroom and arcade at 946 Market, with offices upstairs in 933 Market. After the Baldwin Hotel fire of 1898 he took over the first floor of 933 Market for his showroom and arcade, keeping the upper floors for offices. I can't document this as undisputable fact, but it's the best I can determine from the overall picture. It is definitely clear that he had more than one arcade running at all times, but his main ones were combined with his retail outlets.
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  10. phonogfp

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    But the 946 Market Street location was only the exhibition parlor, wasn't it? Both 946 and 933 are featured on the early cylinder boxes and cabinet decals. I pictured a June 18, 1898 invoice in the "Accessories & Collectibles" Bacigalupi thread which also lists both addresses (as well as a third). George P.
  11. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    There's an idea, Rene: a thread on machines and boxes (or sleeves) from the same retailer! I can contribute only two...and one of them is above... George P.
  12. Tinfoilphono

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    Further thoughts on timing: Bacigalupi's business at 946 Market Street burned down on November 23, 1898, after which he reopened in his new location at 933 Market, which in turn was destroyed in the 1906 earthquake. Now I wonder if the timing of his abandoning the Graphophone line coincided with the total destruction of his inventory. The timing would appear convenient for a restructuring of his operations.
  13. Tinfoilphono

    Bacigalupi

    Excellent display I have the same box, which I display with my Bacigalupi Graphophone Type A. But my box is (alas) in much worse condition. I have one near-mint Bacigalupi box, but it's a later Edison-only style. I keep it with my Bacigalupi Standard with Polyphone attachment.
  14. Fran604g

    Bacigalupi

    Perfect, George!
  15. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    This morning, it occurred to me that I should display a Bacigalupi record box I've had for 25 years with the BS. I didn't recall which version it is, but was pleased to discover that it's an early design featuring Graphophones! George P.
  16. Tinfoilphono

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    I don't know exactly when annual directories were published, so it's possible Bacigalupi kept the franchise into the first half of 1899. Maybe. I can only guess that since Bacigalupi was Edison's primary jobber in the west, Edison may have pressured him to stick to phonographs. That's just a guess, but Bacigalupi must have had an incentive to pass up on Columbia's growing market share.
  17. phonogfp

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    Rene, I didn't realize that Bacigalupi had dropped the Graphophone so early. In 1898 and 1899, Graphophones were selling like hotcakes between the Type A/AT, the "Eagle," and (in 1899) the Type Q. I can't help but wonder why Bacigalupi surrendered the franchise at that point. This also suggests that Grand Graphophones with Bacigalupi markings may not exist, since the Type GG didn't become available until January/February 1899, and the Home Grand didn't appear until June. Thanks for contributing these San Francisco City Directory entries. George P.
  18. Tinfoilphono

    BS Coin-Slot Graphophone from Bacigalupi

    It's rare to find a Bacigalupi dealer tag or decal on a Graphophone. He evidently dropped the Columbia line by late 1898 or early 1899. Check out the San Francisco City Directory listings for Bacigalupi below, for 1898 and 1899. You will note the deletion of Graphophones between those dates. He was a loyal Edison man at least until the late 'aughts, when he took on Victor and Zonophone machines. He carried these in addition to Edison up to 1916, when he went out of business after a 24 year career. I've never seen a coin-op with a Bacigalupi decal before, though he did advertise "slot machines" (the term then used for any coin-operated device, not just gambling machines). Your BS may be the only such survivor! A really great find.
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  20. This was such an incredible find. It definitely gives one hope that amazing things are still lurking out there, just waiting to be discovered! I have to admit, this one makes my chuckle a bit. The Bacigalupi decal really is the cherry on top of an already sweet machine, but to see "EDISON" emblazoned on the front of a Graphophone? I'm sure the folks at Columbia wouldn't have appreciated that...
  21. NateO

    Featured Phonograph: Amberola 50

    Andrew, I'm sorry to hear your example came to you stripped, but you're right, it could always have been worse! These early 50s seem to be quite uncommon, so it's really a blessing it survived in the first place. I'll look forward to your photos, even in the condition its in I'd love to see it. I really lucked out with #16. The finish certainly isn't perfect, the typical darkened and alligatored mahogany, but it cleaned up fairly nicely. My only regret is that some prior owner decided to solder a clock key onto the speed control. But I have to leave that as-is, since it is a part of the machine's history now.
  22. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    Thanks Fran. I Googled how to fix it - apparently it's a common problem - but the fast-talking Youtube experts just told me to do other things I don't know how to do, while moving their cursors with lightning speed. After trying a half-dozen time I gave up. On Monday I'll take it to the local tech who is great and never annoys me! George P.
  23. Fran604g

    Bacigalupi

    I hope you get your new PC issues resolved without much pain.
  24. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    That was my first thought, but there are several BS Graphophones with higher serials but retaining the routed front panel. I can't be more specific because my Windows Libre Office has locked up and I am unable to access any of my documents. I LOVE computers and software... My wife wondered the same thing, but it seems nonsensical when Bacigalupi had these decals designed to integrate with Graphophone banner decals. If this BS originally had a banner decal, I believe it would have been the earliest serial number to have one. (I only wish I could access my files.) I really don't think that is the cause of the discoloration. George P.
  25. Tinfoilphono

    Bacigalupi

    What a great find! But don't you think it would fit in better in a collection adjacent to San Francisco? I've never seen a first generation BS without the lines at the lower front, but yours does have the angled, open-faced coin chute of the early ones. An intermediate example?? That's also the decal that came between the rare engraved metal tag and the more frequently seen decal only listing phonographs. The decals mentioning Graphophones weren't used very long. Ditto for the huge rubber stamp on the bottom, listing Graphophones. It's also very interesting that the decal has the 946 Market St. address that burned down in November 1898, while the stamp on the bottom reflects the new location at 933 Market. The pattern of the spotting on the front panel strike me as resembling a normal decal. Is it possible Bacigalupi removed it? That seems out of character but something caused that discoloration.
  26. phonogfp

    Bacigalupi

    Thanks Fran!
  27. josh

    Busy bee cylinder records

    Or make me a offer?
  28. Fran604g

    Bacigalupi

    That's beautiful, George!
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