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What shaft is 5/8" on later units?

Offered for sale is this Pathe Disc Pathephone Model 100 Upright. This is the model with a turntable and tonearm that can play the large 14-inch Pathe disc records. The machine is all original with a clean, lubricated, and adjusted mechanism. The reproducer is in excellent condition with a jewel ball stylus. Accompanying this fine machine are the included accessories: 1. an additional reproducer (in original box) for playing standard lateral cut discs. 2. a jewel point stylus for playing Edison Diamond Disc records. 3. a second Pathe "Half-Tone" ball stylus. 4. envelopes and packing slip for above styli and the "Full-Tone" stylus mounted in the reproducer. 5. an original 5x12 in. 1915 Saturday Evening Post advertisement of the Pathe Pathephone Model 100 phonograph extolling the virtues of its "round, highly polished genuine sapphire" stylus "that never wears out" and its ability to play the largest 14-inch records. 6. Also included with this phonograph are ten Pathe Records: Three 9 3/4" double-sided records. Three 10 1/2" double-sided records. Three 11 1/2" double-sided records. One (uncommon) 13 1/2" (14") double-sided record. The entire package of the machine including accessories and records (additional records are available) is being offered for the bargain price of $395.00. Prefer pick-up at my home location in northeastern Wisconsin, but can be delivered to the APS Schaumburg show. Please e-mail: ( nipper@dataex.com ) with any interest or questions. Thank you, Rob Rolfs

Interesting that you have a Standard Speaker. According to Frow, that was the $25 outfit. It was also available for $20, with Automatic Reproducer and absent shaving device or recorder. You likely also have the smaller 3/8 shaft rather than the 5/8 shaft on later units. I don't know when the switch occurred.

MODEL: Edison "Suitcase" Standard SERIAL #: 393 YEARS MADE: 1898-1901 COST: $20 CASE/CABINET SIZE: 11.5" x 8.5" REPRODUCER: Standard Speaker MOTOR: 1-Spring HORN DIMENSIONS: Listening Tubes REPRODUCTION PARTS: None INTERESTING FACTS : Boston dealer tag Edison announced the new, inexpensive "Standard" phonograph to the trade in February 1898, but deliveries were apparently not started until April. These early Standards are commonly referred to as 'Suitcase' Standards because of the simple clips to hold the lid. Alternatively, some call these "Square Top Standards," since the lid is not domed like later versions. The earliest Suitcase Standards have 2 clips, one on each side. Later ones have 4 clips, two each on front and back. This has serial number 393, from the first month or so of production. The reproducer is a Standard Speaker, with both recording and reproducing stylii. It is held in place by clips with a single screw at the ends. Later ones had two screws. These early Standards lack a cover over the gears at the left of the mandrel, leaving them open to dust and possible damage. This has a nickel-plated dealer tag on the front, from Murray, Blanchard, Young & Co. in Boston. I know of two other machines with the same tag -- another Suitcase Standard and a Suitcase Home. While most dealers placed tags more discretely, Murray, Blanchard, Young & Co. put them dead-center in the front of the cabinet. Nothing subtle about that. While not a great rarity, it's a very nice example of an early Standard, which would ultimately become Edison's most popular phonograph.

Those cases were made on a mass production basis. My employer manufactures large production runs of certain machined parts. I can tell you that, when we make a mistake, it's not just a few pieces, but instead hundreds of bad parts at a time. (I always equate it to falling off a mountain. There are no small missteps) I can easily imagine Columbia, (or their supplier), making hundreds of cases in preparation for the "new model", and then not discovering their error until machines were ready to go into cabinets. Ooops... Just a theory, however...

Nice machine with some interesting features Jerry. I've seen enough of those Columbia cylinder machines with the banner on the backside to dismiss my initial assumption that they were mistakes. If not mistakes, why then? Hmmm...

Nice Amberola George! I share your weakness for the Edison "faux-grain period", especially in oak. I still think it's a bit odd that they spent so much effort to paint those internal horns when quite often they were covered with a grill cloth anyway.

The Administrator was contacted by an individual in Concord, CA seeking information on and possible interest in this Phonograph Table. It does not belong to APS nor the Administrator and is being posted here simply as a way to streamline this posting. The owner may be contacted directly at: sngamble62@gmail.com 1000015984 (1).mp4

Is it possible to safely remove the oiling label from inside a Victor phonograph? I am restoring a late Victor VI and would like to save the label inside the case on the crank side. I need to cover both sides with veneer to cover up a hack job when a Victrola motor was installed. It is also strange that the label is marked Victor VI but the drawing is of a Victor V.

Bless you for NOT calling this "Fumed oak." Very nice rare Victrola finish. Good luck with the sale! George P.

For sale is an outstanding Victor VV-XVI with fantastic "Early English Oak" finish. The original dark oak grain makes the gold-plated hardware stand out in magnificent splendor. It is all original with turntable felt showing very little wear. This machine looks outstanding and plays as well as it looks. The quadruple spring motor has been cleaned, lubricated, and adjusted for peak performance. The number 2 reproducer has new gaskets and is in excellent condition. The serial number (151424) places this phonograph as a type "J" first produced in 1917. (No albums are included.) This is an exceptional phonograph that performs well and would complement any collection. Price is $375.00 with pick-up at my location in northeastern Wisconsin. Please e-mail ( nipper@dataex.com ) with interest or questions. Thank you, Robin Rolfs

“My Ohio Home” by Louis Lilienfeld With His Hotel Biltmore Orchestra 1928 Vocalists: J. Donald Parker and Will Donaldson Edison Diamond Disc 52216-R, Take C

Just updating in case anyone else is interested, but our Sonora Barcarolle gramophone requires about 80 turns to be fully wound! We did get the man who serviced it to show us, he's been servicing phonographs for 60+ years so we thought it was probably us just not winding it up enough and we were definitely right! We don't ever wind it up the full way though as it doesn't need it to get through both sides of a record 😊 Thanks everyone for all the advice!

I had a Canadian copy of this record that was is fairly poor condition so I ultimately sold it. I would like to replace it with a nicer one. If anyone has a copy they are willing to sell let me know. Thanks

Thank you, George. Talk to you on Friday.🤠

Here's another album, a bit of a puzzle, german it seems - the only records I have that fit this album are the Fonotipia kind. It's strange but I've never found any Odeon records that fit this album, there's room for 12.

Gee Fran, if I had an extra Special K, I'd give it to you. I have some of the others, but not Special K. Sorry! Good luck with your search. George P.

Rob and Joan, thank you for putting together such a great article in Auction Action News. I hope with the publication's reach,more people will come to the show. I look forward to this show every year as it is one of my only outlets to meet up with good friends who I've known for many years, as well as people who have become recent friends. We all share the same passion for collecting antique phonographs and what a way to spend quality time with them at the show and events that APS hosts. The APS board and volunteers spend a lot of time putting together what to many seems like a seamless event, but we must realize behind the scenes how much work it takes make the magic hapoen. Thank you to the APS board and club members as your work and passion does not go unnoticed. Scott

Hey all, I just dropped my only copy of the 4-minute Wax Amberol "Special K" Peerless Minstrels - by The Peerless Quartet while dusting -- and I made it explode. I would like to replace it if any of you have one to sell at a reasonable price. It is one of the "demo" Amberols that the Edison Co. supplied to customers who purchased the 4-minute attachment to upgrade their 2-minute Phonograph. I have the original box and lid, so if yours is in a mismatched box, that's okay provided the record is in Very Good to Excellent condition and very well protected for shipping. For shipping, it will need to be double boxed. The record will need to be carefully stuffed on the inside with paper or bubble wrap, (preferably placed in an appropriate fitting cylinder record box or other protective tubing) surrounded by lots of bubble wrap, snuggly but not tightly fitted in a rigid box that's also wrapped in lots of bubble wrap, then placed into another larger sturdy box; the two boxes should have adequate space between them (at least 2 inches on each side, top and bottom) so that they do not contact each other! We all know the routine by now. Wax Amberols are very fragile and need special attention for shipping to succeed without catastrophe! DM me with any details. Thank you, Fran Pratt

Anticipation by phonograph and record dealers, collectors, and enthusiasts will be reaching a fever pitch (that's Phonograph Phever pitched at 78 rpm) as the date of the Midwest Music Expo event approaches. For many, it's the show that they have waited an entire year for. Make plans to attend 2026 Midwest Music Expo on Friday July 31 - August 2 at the Hyatt Regency, Schaumberg, Illinois. The show is advertised in AuctionActionAntique News (below) with an article featuring the upcoming show. This trade publication reaches the Midwest states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio, and Minnesota. Plan to attend and join APS for reduced rates if you are not already a member. For information about the show visit the APS website at: www.AntiquePhono.org Rob

It's going to be a jewel when it's completed. I'm looking forward to restoration updates!

Here is t he link to the previous Victor VI I restored.

Call me crazy, but I recently traded away my Victor VI that I restored a while back for a very late version of the Victor VI with the same issues as the one I restored. The new owner of my restored VI is very excited to have it and I am excited to save a very late Victor VI. It has an automatic brake and drop in elbow. Someone replaced the original motor with one from a Victrola and cut more holes in the case and motor board. The serial number on this VI is only 30 serial numbers away from the end of production and needs to be saved. Wish me luck!!!!

That's fantastic! Thanks again for all your help and advice. This gramophone has definitely sparked my interest in phonographs so I appreciate any information/advice on them, especially since I'm sure this won't be my only one 😄

Thank you so much! This is very helpful to know and makes me feel a lot less worried 😄