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Hello everyone, Like last year, I am again offering a number of more or less rare cylinder record boxes (or interesting cylinder records) from different countries. See photos below for what is available. The numbers on the photos match the numbers in the list/description below. I haven’t added prices, as everyone who is seriously interested in cylinder boxes has a rough idea what they will sell for. My prices will be fair. And I will give a discount, if someone buys quite a few boxes. Just let me know (by PM here or through FB Messenger - https://www.facebook.com/helmut.janisch.5) what you are interested in, and then I tell you how much I’d like to have … and then we’ll see if we can agree on a deal. First come first serve, though I will try to please everyone. If you are seriously interested in buying one or more boxes and need to see more photos from all around of the box or of the record (where included), I will take photos and send them to you. For now, I think that the photos of just the front and top gives a good idea of what to expect. Shipping is from Germany and I will do my best to find the best possible shipping rate for you. And of course a bomb proof packaging is also included. Satisfction guaranteed, as they say. Greetings, Helmut List of my offers: 1. American Lambert Indestructible Record box w. pink cylinder Nice example, all matching - No 1017 Melody In F, Violin, very good condition 2. American Lambert Ebony Indestructible Record Box for black Lambert Indestructible cylinder with great image (elephant on cylinder) on one side - empty box in nice condition with correct caps 3. International Phonographic Language Schools (Lambert) Box with correct Lambert languge record „German No. 18“ - nice condition with correct caps 4. British Lambert Record One of three similar label variations for British Lambert celluloid cylinders (one is white and two are red background) - all genuine and in nice condition; with very good condition British Lambert cylinder No 5182, Chinese Troubador by Elton 5. British Edison Bell Ebony Indestructible Record This is the later label variation for Edison Bell Indestructibles - box is quite darkend, but still not too bad in my opinion; with correct Indestructible record No 561, Coronation Bells by band 6. British Excelsior Record Box for a black wax cylinder of the Excelsior Record brand, has a fitting but wrong manufacturer’s cap on top - with correct black wax cylinder, There’s A Dark Man Coming With A Bundle by band, quite mouldy condition 7. British London Popular Record Box for a black wax cylinder of the London Popular Record brand - with correct black wax cylinder No 198, If The Man In The Moon Were A Coon, quite mouldy condition 8. British Electric Record Box for a black wax cylinder of the Electric Record brand, has fitting but wrong brand’s cap on top (Edison Bell instead Electric) - empty box 9. British International Indestructible Record - metal lid is unfortunately missing, comes with correct record No 4251, Marriage Bells - it has a crack (approx 2cm length) that is audible but still not too bad, overall sound is vg-, I’d say 10. British Rees’ Language Record/Sterling Linguaphone Box for a black wax language cylinder made by Sterling - with correct matching black wax cylinder in very good condition - tiny mould spots on one side 11. French Cylindre Phrynis Box for Phrynis black wax cylinder - with correct brand’s cylinder but wrong title, No 10348, La Traviataby M. Rigaux, in very good condition 12. French Charlus & Marechal Square box with floral ornaments for Charlus & Marechal brown wax cylinder, it is one of at least two different floral ornaments used - with correct cylinder (announced Charlus & Marechal and logo on record’s rim), can’t tell if the title is matching, the condition is very good 13. German Echo Goldguss Walze Very nice example of this rare German brand - very nice condition box with corect matching record No 9005, O Du Fröhliche in very good condition 14. Phonographen-Walzenfabrik Colonia Very nice example of this rare German brand - the box is in very nice condition all around but the record is broken into pieces 15. German Apollo Record Rare box for Apollo Record brown wax cylinder, the label is one of at least five similar looking labels for Apollo - with correct matching cylinder in decent condition, quite some mouldy areas 16. German Gold-Guss-Walze Nice example of the rare German brand Gold-Guss-Walze - correct brand’s cylinder, but title is not No 4087 (as the lid says) but No 4029, Armee Marsch No 7, in decent condition, slightly mouldy 17. German Schellhorn Stentor-Guss-Record Very nice example of the rare German Schellhorn brand, one of two different Schellhorn labels of the same brand; this has the addition „Stentor“ in the brand name - with correct matching cylinder No 1320, Norma Overture, in very good condition, lid label has some stains but nothing too ugly 18. German Electra Goldguss-Walze (label in blue and gold) Nice example of one of the „bigger“ German brands - with correct matching cylinder, but with a big crack and one side heavily moulded 19. German Elektra Goldguss-Walze (label in black/red/gold) Nice example of one of the „bigger“ German brands - with correct matching cylinder, but quite mouldy 20. German 1a Lipsia Hartguss Record box Nice typical plain green box for 1a Lipsia black wax cylinders - with probably correct matching cylinder (can’t identify the march, sorry) in quite good condition 21. German Excelsior Hartguss Record Nice typical box for Excelsior black wax cylinders, strangely with the text „Moulded Record“ on front written in English - with correct matching cylinder box No 6040, O Du Fröhliche, in rather decent condition 22. German Excelsior Hartguss Record Nice typical box for Excelsior black wax cylinders, strangely with the text „Moulded Record“ on front written in English - with maybe correct cylinder, it is broken/unplayable, so I can’t check 23. German Gloria Goldgusswalze Decent example for one of Germany’s bigger brands with very nice graphics all around - empty box in decent condition with lid label missing and slightly fade colour of the lid, some stains but overall not too bad 24. German Edison cylinder blank „Geschliffene Edison Blankwalzen“ There was no particular labeled box for Edison cylinder blanks in Europe. They used the regular boxes (no matter if they were British, French or German) with just a different lid label on top, saying that this contains a blank. This is one of two different variations of that lid label in German. - with correct blank cylinder, unfortunately with a large crack 25. French Cylindres Pathé Box for Pathé brown wax cylinder, the box is the typical make that mostly Pathé used, but the lid is very special, as the brand name is embossed to it (impossible to spot on the photo, and even hard to see in real) - with maybe correct brown wax cylinder (French introduction and singing) in quite good condition with some mould spots 26. American Columbia with Kramer’s Music House dealer label Very nice complete and matching example of a 2 minute black wax release by Columbia with record slip - box, caps, labels, record slip and record are all in very good condition and the label by the Allentown dealer is also very nice with great handwriting of the title; they rarely are that nice and complete 27. Edison No 8136, Nearer, My God, To Thee by Edison Concert Band Not interesting for the box but for the music on the record. It is said that it was the last tune that the band played on the sinking Titanic. - early black wax cylinder in extremely good condition 28. Columbia No 3863, Banjo Solo - Selection from A Runnaway Girl by Vess L. Ossman Not interesting for the box but for the record, comes with original record slip - ca. 1900-1901 brown wax cylinder in extremely good condition, plays at 140 rpm

Amazing presentation - thank you Bruce

Thanks for your thoughts on this, James. I suppose it could be related to copyrights. But many British recordings were released in the USA with Victor labels on them and Victor catalog numbers. I'm not sure why this record wouldn't have been done the same way if it were in general release in the USA. As far as I can tell, it never was except in this form.

Hi, For my book project about cylinder record brands I am seeking an example of the attached box for a cylinder record blank made by Charles A. Richards / Richards Laboratories. I suppose there were different label variations too. Does anyone here have one of them? I would love to buy it, either the empty box or with the blank cylinder in any condition. Alternatively I would be happy too, if I could at least get photos of a box from all sides. Many thanks in advance! Helmut

I posed questions to google and it cited the following links for the unconfirmed information below. https://openurl.ebsco.com/EPDB%3Agcd%3A4%3A12693524/detailv2?sid=ebsco%3Aplink%3Ascholar&id=ebsco%3Agcd%3A159126776&crl=f&link_origin=www.google.com https://ethw.org/Victor_Talking_Machine_Company https://soundofthehound.com/2011/07/13/the-four-major-record-companies-in-the-uk-in-1924-1/ The central reason for altering the look of the label was trademark law. Although the Victor Talking Machine Company in the US and The Gramophone Company in the UK were closely allied sister companies that shared master recordings, they did not have equal rights to the famous "His Master's Voice" (Nipper the dog) logo worldwide. In the UK: The Gramophone Co. owned the full copyright to the painting of Nipper looking into the brass horn. In the Americas: Victor owned the exclusive rights to the Nipper trademark. I'll let you take a deeper dive. 🙂 James.

I've had this record for a few years and have never been able to find out the story of the record and if it is a one off or not. Does anyone out there recognize this? It has a "Special Record" label pasted over the top half of the standard "Gramophone Co., LTD" label and a little sticker pasted on top of that. Would it have been intended for Victor in Camden? Would it have been for a Jobber or a Dealer? It's got me stumped. I would love to hear from anyone that might know something.

A couple of months ago I posted the RCA Radiotron man thread. I thought I was done with Radiotron, but then I realized I had this Bing Crosby Radiotron item. I assume it was a give away when someone bought a radio in the 1920s or 1930s. It's kind of cool no matter what you might think of Bing. Behind the little sign is the original box both pieces came in. It's about 3 inches high.

Amazing recording! There's a quality to it that transports you to - 1896 - it's like being there. No warble either! Thanks for sharing!!!

Those are wonderful! That's some serious advertising material, way beyond the usual. And during the era when he was still selling Columbia Graphophones.

Good evening all, im looking for a needle arm for a Victor exhibition reproducer. The thumbscrew is broken off on the one on the reproducer now. Thanks Dan

That's a wonderful flyer! It's interesting to see that Bacigalupi was prepared to deliver the earliest version of the AT as of July 1, 1898. I've never seen a specific date for its appearance, and I've always written "mid-1898" when referencing its introduction. It was probably available in June on the East Coast. Thanks for posting this. George P.

I was looking for a vitascope flyer and came across this Bacigalupi sales flyer I have..measures 12 x 14 each page..pretty big...also noted the NYC office...didn't remember it when I last posted on Bacigalupi items...

Hello, I'm trying to locate a grill , a speed control knob and a crank for the B60 phonograph. The crank isn't the usual cylinder motor size. It has a larger winding shaft O.D. Female thread. The speed knob was only used on the belt driven, table model machines. I tried George V. but all he has is an empty cabinet for a B60. Gramps has a pattern for the grill, but he's busy building a house so can't make me one. A repro would suit me fine !! I'm willing to pay a reasonable sum knowing these parts are not common. Can anyone help? Many Thanks !! Bob Hodge Courtesy of Intertique, the grill looks like this:

Here is a brown wax Columbia Washington D.C. cylinder from 1896. The song is "My Best Girl's A New Yorker" sung by Dan W. Quinn. It was published in 1895 and there is a reputed recording of it by Edward M. Favor made that same year. Dan W. Quinn also recorded it on a 7" Berliner, number 978, made on April 17, 1996. The cylinder here is a bit rough with a few pits and mold spots. I have tried to edit out some of the worst blasts and pops but it was not possible to remove all of them. The cylinder itself is an ordinary brown wax cylinder, not a channel rim type, and it did not come with an original box. It did come with an original very faded title slip. I've uploaded it as it appears and also enhanced so you can read it. I've also uploaded the audio in both wav and mp3 formats for maximum browser compatibility. Dan W. Quinn - My Best Girl's A New Yorker.wav Dan W. Quinn - My Best Girl's A New Yorker.mp3

Hi, I am seeking an experienced hobby photographer in or near Indianapolis to take photos of cylinder record boxes for my book project. Can anyone help? Here's what it is about ... There is a private museum as part of a company in Indianapolis that shows the history of voice recording, especially dictating wax cylinder machines. They also have a large collection of dictation cylinders in their storage boxes. I do have many of them, but there a couple that I don't own but would love to include in my forthcoming book about cylinder record brands, boxes and label variation. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone at the museum who can take these photos for me. But I am sure they would let someone take them, if agreed with them in advance. I would give the photographer a short guide that shows how I would like the boxes to be photographed. Basically if I do it myself, I take photos from all around and maybe the top and bottom of the box. It's not too complicated, but doing it with something better than a 15 year old smartphone would help a lot. Of course, I would be very grateful for the help and would pay for the expenses, if there should be any ... or I have a few nice duplicate unusual cylinder boxes, if that would be a "payment" preferred. Please let me know if you can do the "job" or if you know someone who might do it. Thanks a lot! Cheers, Helmut

Hi Bruce No, it's an error when I uploaded the pictures. Sorry if I let you needing more pictures 🙂

I can't imagine the work that must be going into addressing all this detail, down to the bespoke screws. Slowly though I see it start to come together. Pedro, I'm not able to open that zip file in your post here. I assume some additional pictures are there?

I can't imagine it being the same recording. It was her most performed role and I am confident she recorded it several times over her career. The version on the demo record was recorded in New York December 8, 1930 and conducted by Rosario Bourdon who was one of the great Victor music directors.

Outstanding work! What a great project.

I didn't mean to say the dead space was an issue, just a fact of trying to get a clean sound. As for my equipment, if you look at the video on YouTube at the bottom of the comments i list all of my software and hardware used for my transfers. Here is the text. As for specific setting I adjust many of the settings in the phono stage for nearly every record so I can't really tell you specifically. Software: Audacity Click Repair (An old java program running in Windows 11 ARM emulated in MacOS) Final Cut Pro Hardware: Audio-Technica ATLP120USB Stereo Turntable - line out (not USB) Stanton 500 with 4mil stylus (4 grams) Parks Audio’s Puffin Phono DSP phono stage Apple 16-inch MacBook Pro - M4 Pro

Beautiful transfers! Thanks for posting. I own the album with Lily Pons singing the Bell Song. It's on one side of a 12", and only the first part of the aria is on the demo record here, but what a pleasure to hear this magnificent clean transfer! (I don't have a score to check this, but as to the "dead space between phrases," I'm pretty sure that the piece is notated that way.) And that's apparently not the Philadelphia Orchestra on the Lakmé; the label just says "Soprano with orchestra." Again, thanks for the spectacular treat! P.S. Could you describe the equipment you used for your transfer? You know, turntable, cartridge, stylus, filtration/compensation/equaization, all that good stuff. Thanks! Later addition/correction: I own the album with Pons Bell Song alright, but it's Columbia Masterworks set M-MM-561, a 12" three-record set with Bell Song on two sides and the Mad Scene from Lucia di Lammermoor on four sides. "With orchestra conducted by Pietro Cimara", who was a conductor at the MET Opera. His career came to an unfortunate end, as he suffered a stroke while conducting La forza del destino in Jan. 1958. Here's a link to an article in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/1958/01/14/archives/conductor-collapses-at-met-violinist-takes-over-on-podium-conductor.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1E.73Dv.wDI3d5zpjU89&smid=url-share Now I wonder whether the demo Bell Song recording is identical to the Columbia?? Could that be?

I had the privilege of seen lots of "behind the scene" pictures and I agree with everyone that this is an absolute stunning collection that now it is displayed in all its glory. Congratulations Bruce!

Lot of progress this week albeit nothing too spectacular. I made the pivoting connectors for the reproducers, their tiny internal turning points and lots and lots of different screws to bolt everything together. Making bespoke screws is an immensely time consuming work but this machine requires it.Photos-1-001 (2).zip I also cast the front leg of the carriage and, as I write this lines, the 3d printer is working full steam to prepare some supports for been able to mock up the carriage position and check the gaps between the different parts of the phonograph. Some tooling was bought also to be able to make replicas of the cylinder tins.

This is a very interesting record perhaps more for its label than the recorded content. But an example of this same label in Mike Sherman’s “Collectors Guide To Victor Records” book was included in “The Kit Of Demonstration Records” provided to dealers/customers in 1933. My copy is one number larger so it too may have also been part of that set of demonstration recordings. The K-3 example in Sherman’s book had 78rpm on one side and 33 1/3rpm on the other side. K-4 has 78rpm on both sides. From what I can gather the kit of demonstration records were given to customers that bought the new dual speed machines that could play both 78rpm and 33 1/3rpm records. Both sides of the record are from already released records. Side A sounds pretty great and is lively orchestral music. Side B also sounds great but has a couple of things going against it. Firstly, it is a pretty softly recorded record with lots of dead space between phrases. And, it has obviously been played much more often that Side A. It still shows how magnificent the soprano voice of Lily Pons was.

Thanks!!! That's exactly what I needed to know. All the rubber is supple, isolator and diaphragm - so I'll have a go at tuning it according to the instructions! And yes. I've played all kinds of records - I'll be back when I hear what happens after trying the "tuning"!!