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This silly little record is something I picked up at the recent APS Midwest Expo. I just couldn't resist such a cute tiny four inch Durium record. The song is ridiculous and very short and I have no idea who Cal Carson is. I thought some of you might be interested in this odd little thing.

I went to Larry Schlick's in the Milwaukee area in the early 1990's. The treadle machines/, and early Graphophone cylinder with the thick brown wax over it, was something I won't forget, also the early class M machines.

Jack....Pete told me to never mention the chewing gum....nice to hear the story from you!

This is the medium sized Diamond Disc horn as would be found in a C-150 and others. I would need this for a young collector attempting to complete his first phono. Thanks!

No worries about thread hijacking, the more the merrier. I appreciate being able to compare details. The paint and striping on yours is exceptional. I was also interested to note that your reproducer shows the same sort of metal porosity as mine does. Interestingly, the foot that replaces the AP adjusting screw is black on yours, and plain brass on mine. Yours also confirms my suspicion that Columbia used up old AP gear covers with KEEP LEVEL stamping on early AQs, before switching to unmarked ones.

Here are some pics of my AQ. Hopefully, I'm not hijacking your thread.

It's blank. I'll post pictures of it on the AQ thread.

That's great. Question: does your AQ have "KEEP LEVEL" on the gear cover or is it blank?

Okay. I looked for a number on the AQ in the same area as the AP. With your guidance, I found the AQ serial number, 46167, marked approximately where yours is marked. Thanks!

My AQ has a serial number on the side panel, just below and to the right of the winding key. It is 35540. Hazelcorn's book says that the numbers carried over from the AP, and fell into a very broad range from 17354 to 73358. The range he published for the AP is 527-14850. Clearly other types of Graphophones had to fall into those enormous ranges. A quick glance in the book shows the HG in the AP range, 519 - 6116. The GG is also in the AP range. So serial numbers won't help at all in determining approximate production, as can be done with some Graphophones.

I just noticed in looking at my pictures above, that the AP has a serial number. Either 8647 or 3647. Hard to make out the first digit. You can see it in my 4th photo. It's stamped into the tin motor cover. There is an AP on YouTube that also has a serial number, but it's stamped on the side plate of the motor, just adjacent to the area where mine is stamped in the cover. My AQ has no such marking. Any other AP's or AQ's with serial numbers out there? Were AQ's not serialized?

Agreed -- I'm sure there are more AP and AQ Graphophones out there, I'd love to see some others to compare details. I'd also love to know if anyone has found any previously unreported ads or other ephemera mentioning them.

Thanks guys! While this is by no means a pristine example, as is the case with the AQ, it's actually better than it photographs. I'm told that photographing in natural light is the way to go, (or buying machines in better condition perhaps 😉) The human eye is more forgiving than the camera lense, it seems. BTW, it appears as if we three are the total audience here. I realize that's probably an unfair exaggeration. No matter, I really enjoy this thread. I hope others are inspired to join in. Don't feel dissauded if you're not able to fill in all the blanks for the background information. I certainly can't... Fill in what you can and perhaps others can help with the other items. It's a chance for all of us to learn. Thanks!

That's funny. I didn't even catch that you were the poster of the older thread. Duh...

A great companion to the AQ posted by Rene! Thanks to you both for posting these interesting machines. George P.

Yeah, I posted that a while back when I was restoring another one of these Puritans. That one had all gold plated parts and a different style of automatic brake mechanism.

Very nice piece! I've always loved the unusual horn mount on the AP.

You've probably seen this. Most likely, it adds more questions than answers. https://forum.antiquephono.org/topic/2232-puritan-parts/

Sorry for the quality of the pictures. I should have done this when I had more time...

MODEL: AP YEARS MADE: 1903 COST: $3 CASE/CABINET SIZE: base 12" x 5.5" REPRODUCER: fixed in place MOTOR: Single Spring HORN DIMENSIONS: 10" REPRODUCTION PARTS: none Predesessor to the AQ. The AP had no leadscrew, depending solely upon the record groove to drive the reproducer. Leveling was crucial and delicate. The horn is suspended near its opening with a simple, vertical rod, with a pointed end that sits in a divot within the horn. The reproducer is rigidly mounted in the horn since it has no need to swivel. This example was purchased at a recent Stanton auction. It was a great surprise that the original paint cleaned up as well as it did. The striping and decal, however, is almost entirely gone. It should be striped the same as the AQ.

Does anyone have a Puritan owner's manual showing this tone arm?

Selling my cylinder collection in two groups: a handful of titles worth listing individually, and the remainder as a bulk lot. Full catalog with details attached. Located in Nashua, NH — local pickup only at this stage. ===== STANDOUT CYLINDERS (sold individually or as a small group) ===== 1. The Trust Question — speech, W.J. Bryan — Edison #9917 2. Rights and Progress of the Negro — speech, W.H. Taft — Edison #10007 Both part of Edison's 1908 presidential campaign speech series, the first time candidates' voices were distributed to the public on record. 3. The Rosary — Elizabeth Spencer & Knickerbocker Quartet — Edison #4M-856 (4-minute Amberol) 4. Those Songs My Mother Used to Sing — Elizabeth Spencer — Edison #4m-625 (4-minute Amberol) Early 4-minute black wax Amberols (1908–1912) — a shorter-lived, more fragile format than the later Blue Amberol. I also have a spare Model H (4-minute) reproducer available if a buyer wants to pair it with these. 5. We're Tenting Tonight — Knickerbocker Quartet — Edison #1881 (Blue Amberol) 6. Unlucky Mose — Golden & Hughes — Edison #1644 (Blue Amberol) Confirmed Blue Amberol popular-series numbering, durable celluloid format. 7. The Bullfrog and the Coon — Ada Jones — Edison #9339 Named star artist of the acoustic era. 8. You're a Grand Old Rag — comic song — Edison #9256 The original 1906 title of George M. Cohan's song, later renamed "You're a Grand Old Flag" after public objection to calling the flag a "rag." A more collectible variant than a standard "Grand Old Flag" pressing. Open to offers on any of the above individually, or as a set of 8. ===== REMAINDER OF THE COLLECTION (165 cylinders, bulk lot) ===== A typical mix of Edison Gold Moulded, Amberol, and Blue Amberol titles — marches, waltzes, hymns, vocal duets/quartettes, and novelty songs, plus a handful of Columbia and U.S. Everlasting cylinders mixed in. Full title list with catalog numbers attached below. Selling as a bulk lot rather than piece by piece — open to offers for the group. A few notes worth mentioning up front: four titles in the catalog (Ballet Music from William Tell, I'm Afraid to Come Home in the Dark, School Days, Silver Threads Among the Gold) each have two physical copies included — marked [2 copies] in the attached list, so open to selling those as pairs or splitting them up. A small number of titles have some wear/chips as noted in my records, and one cylinder ("Ginger 2-step") has no legible catalog number. Happy to answer specific condition questions on any title. [Attach: Edison Cylinder List (full 173-entry catalog with numbers, brand, and type/artist)] Edison_Cylinder_List_Portrait (1).pdf

This phonograph has been in our family for generations, but the current generation isn't interested in continuing to keep it, so I'm looking forward to pass it on to someone who'll appreciate it. Photos included below. (Cylinders from this same collection are listed separately.) WHAT'S INCLUDED: • Edison Standard Phonograph, serial #S338651 — appears to be a Model B based on the crank type, speed control position, and end gate (open to correction from anyone who can confirm from the photos or patent plate). Dates to roughly 1905 based on serial number ranges I've seen referenced. Oak case, "Edison Standard Phonograph" banner decal is clear and intact, mechanism has the Thomas A. Edison signature mandrel assembly. Professionally reconditioned by a phonograph specialist a few years ago and works fine — turns smoothly, plays properly. • Small brass "morning glory" style horn, currently mounted — appears to be a standard Edison-style horn. • Two large decorative “witch’s hat” style horns painted red-to-gold sunburst finish, scalloped petal edges. Not original Edison horns as far as I can tell — more likely aftermarket/decorative. One retains most of its original paint; the other has notable paint loss/flaking (see photos). • Spare parts included — see picture CONDITION NOTES: Machine mechanism is in good working order (see reconditioning note above). Large horns show wear as described above. PRICE: Open to offers on the machine, horns, and spare parts as a set, or willing to discuss splitting items out separately (e.g., horns, or spare parts) if that works better for interested buyers. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll work with you. LOCAL PICKUP ONLY at this stage — located in Nashua, NH. Happy to answer questions.

Here are some more pictures. It is also puzzling that there are four extra screws to hold the motor board down. There are also three small holes in an area where there might have been a brake part? Does anyone have pictures of what it would look like?

That's a sweetheart, Rene! If I saw one like it (condition) at a show, I'd be very tempted. George P.