Fran604g Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Valecnik said: Fran, regarding your Hungarian gramophone with dealer tag, you might find it interesting to know that I've actually been to Esztergom. It's a city with a long history going back to Roman times. I wonder how that machine made it to you? Hi Bruce, that's interesting and I should put some effort into researching the city. I bought it from Wyatt Markus several years ago for my wife. Where and how he had acquired it, I don't know. Sharon's paternal great-great grandparents were from Poland, and we've a few Columbia (green label) Polish and Hungarian records that made it to us from her parent's estate - although any real connection to the Gramophone is imagined by us. We fell in love with the horn, and when we took a closer look at the case, we had to have it. It's unique to any other European Gramophones I've seen through my study of advertising. Karl Lindstroem contacted me many years ago after he noticed I had posted photos of it on one of the FB antique phono groups, with the explanation that his father's (grandfather's?) company sold the motors and horns throughout Europe in the teens - and specifically the "Union" motor. I've seen only one or two others in photos. Somewhere I saved his notes. It's a fascinating story, but if only I knew it's journey to the states... Cheers, Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4tD Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Here are some dealers that I have found. PastedGraphic-1.tiff PastedGraphic-1.tiff PastedGraphic-1.tiff PastedGraphic-1.tiff PastedGraphic-1.tiff PastedGraphic-1.tiff PastedGraphic-3.tiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KinetoGuy Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 When I bought the phonograph Norman Bates threw in the rocking chair in the attic... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioret Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Here are a few more that haven’t been posted.... I am particularly fond of the Hawthorn and Sheble bedplate tag! gregg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiophile102 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I have but one dealer tag and it's on my A250. Great topic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On 4/8/2021 at 4:33 PM, Fran604g said: Hi Bruce, that's interesting and I should put some effort into researching the city. I bought it from Wyatt Markus several years ago for my wife. Where and how he had acquired it, I don't know. Sharon's paternal great-great grandparents were from Poland, and we've a few Columbia (green label) Polish and Hungarian records that made it to us from her parent's estate - although any real connection to the Gramophone is imagined by us. We fell in love with the horn, and when we took a closer look at the case, we had to have it. It's unique to any other European Gramophones I've seen through my study of advertising. Karl Lindstroem contacted me many years ago after he noticed I had posted photos of it on one of the FB antique phono groups, with the explanation that his father's (grandfather's?) company sold the motors and horns throughout Europe in the teens - and specifically the "Union" motor. I've seen only one or two others in photos. Somewhere I saved his notes. It's a fascinating story, but if only I knew it's journey to the states... Cheers, Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Yes, it IS a fascinating story Fran. Great machine too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I guess the Holland Brothers wanted to avoid any doubt regarding who was the dealer for this Class M given that they felt the need to put two tags about six inches apart. It also has a tag which makes clear that the machine is sold for use only in "Canada and the provinces of British North America" in addition to the Norh American Phonograph Co. tag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) "Jake Graham for Gramophones" was a lot more subtle than the Holland Bros. in Ottawa. The dealer tag on this Opera sold in Liverpool is pretty inconspicuous. Edited April 2, 2023 by Valecnik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 This Bacigalupi tag turns up from time to time. Seems Bacigalupi liked to put his name on everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phonomark Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 A couple of my collection favorites...1) a Rare Victor V with a The Talking Machine Co. decal 2) an Edison Gem E with an ETM celluloid tag 3) the bottom of one of my Bacigalupi machines (an Edison Square Top Standard) and 4) my Hawthorn & Sheble Model B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Wow some very cool pieces there too Mark! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonogfp Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 This 2-year-old thread was apparently forgotten (at least by me) and nicely resurrected. Thanks to everyone who has posted! Meanwhile, a similar thread was recently begun, so it should be noted as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonogfp Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I was fortunate enough to locate 3 different artifacts with "Spear & Co." markings, so I tried to shoot groupings to show them together. The location of the "Spear" tag on the Eagle Graphophone proved problematic, as did the same tag mounted under the handle of the record case. I'm not satisfied with any of these images, but together they show everything! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvind Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Nice dealer tags for sure, George. I love how the Eagle not only has the metal tag, but also the decal from the store superimposed over the original Columbia decal. And, your pictures aren't bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonogfp Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Thanks Dan. Next time I'm shooting something else, maybe I'll have a brain wave for the perfect arrangement...🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonogfp Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Here's another from an Eagle's lid: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSherman Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 From a Columbia Bijou, Type N. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSherman Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Victor VE-XVI in walnut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phonogfp Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Nice, Mike! I've been dreaming about that Type N ever since you showed it to me in your car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valecnik Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Nice indeed Mike! Especially that Type N is a real prize! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phono-phan Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Here are some pictures of my gold plated Johnson C. The pictures really don't show the gold plating well. It is from the Sherman Clay and Company dealer in San Fransisco. It was very dirty when I got it. It came from a heavy smoker's house and he said he got it in the late 60's. When I started to clean it up, I originally thought the parts were brass but a magnet sticks to them. I doubted the originality of it at first. I posted pictures of it on another Forum. Two members replied about it. One mentioned that Sherman Clay and Co. were well known for custom ordering whatever a customer wanted. Another replied that he was restoring one just like it. For some reason, the reproducer isn't gold plated. So there are at least two of these known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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